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Quincy Jones: “Michael Jackson Didn’t Want To Be Black”

Posted by Media Outrage on July 4, 2009


Quincy Jones sat down with for an indepth interview on the death and life of Michael Jackson.

Q: How have you been holding up since Michael Jackson’s death?
A: Oh, man. It’s surrealistic. I went to Shanghai for the movie festival over there—I took Halle Berry—and then went back to Luxembourg, and in three days I lost Ed McMahon, Farrah Fawcett, and Michael. And Michael’s thing is still surrealistic to me. I can’t process it, man. I don’t know how to process it. It’s just unbelievable—him leaving before me. I can’t believe it.

Q: How did you learn that he had died?
A: Well, everybody in the world called me. I got 500 e-mails. I’ve never seen anything like it in my life. At first they said they’d taken him to the hospital, then they said he’d had a stroke or a heart attack—it just kept going back and forth and we didn’t know what was really happening. And at first I thought he was just kind of freaked out by the coming concerts, because I was in London when they announced the 50 concerts and they sold out in four hours. . . We’d see each other all the time, and I just can’t believe he’s not here.

Q: Have you been crying?
A: Oh, man, it’s more than that. It’s way more than that. It hurts my soul, man. It’s just a lump down there.

Q: You were there to witness the strange evolution in Michael’s appearance. Did you ever step in and saying anything about it?
A: Oh, we talked about it all the time. But he’d come up with, “Man, I promise you I have this disease,” and so forth, and “I have a blister on my lungs,” and all that kind of b.s. It’s hard, because Michael’s a Virgo, man—he’s very set in his ways. You can’t talk him out of it. Chemical peels and all that stuff.

Q: Did you believe him about the disease?
A: I don’t believe in any of that bullshit, no. No. Never. I’ve been around junkies and stuff all my life. I’ve heard every excuse. It’s like smokers—”I only smoke when I drink” and all that stuff. But it’s bullshit. You’re justifying something that’s destructive to your existence. It’s crazy. I mean, I came up with Ray Charles, man. You know, nobody gonna pull no wool over my eyes. He did heroin 20 years! Come on. And black coffee and gin for 40 years. But when he called me to come over to see him when he was in the hospital on his way out, man, he had emphysema, hepatitis C, cirrhosis of the liver, and five malignant tumors. Please, man! I’ve been around this all my life. So it’s hard for somebody to pull the wool over my eyes. But when somebody’s hell-bent on it, you can’t stop ’em.

Q: But it must’ve been so disturbing to see Michael’s face turn into what it turned into.
A: It’s ridiculous, man! Chemical peels and all of it. And I don’t understand it. But he obviously didn’t want to be black.

Q: Is that what it was?
A: Well, what do you think? You see his kids?

Q: Did you ever discuss it? Did you ever ask, “Michael, don’t you want to be a black man?”
A: No, no, no, please. That’s not the way you do it.

Q: But he was beautiful before?
A: Man, he was the most gorgeous guy.

Q: At root, what do you think killed Michael Jackson?
A: I don’t know, man. I’m a musician. I’m not a psychiatrist. I would think that the pressure of the concerts and the debt and everything else . . . look, I’ve been in the hands of Nobel doctors for the last five years, in Stockholm, at the Karolinska hospital, which you can’t even pay to get in. I’ve learned so much about the human mind and the body, and the doctors talk all the time about how you become your thoughts. It’s true. With one thought it starts, you know, and if you sit there and just stay hung up on one negative thought, you will become that thought. I know that Lisa Marie Presley said that she always thought he was going to die like Elvis. You sit and think about that stuff, it’ll happen to you. If you start thinking about darkness instead of light, or fear instead of love, you’ll get in trouble. I really believe that.

Q: With so many people asking you about Michael Jackson, is it hard to find the private space in which to mourn his death?
A: Yes, it is. It’s surrealistic. I don’t know how to process it at all. Because everybody’s reacting to it, and making up their own answers.

Q: You’ve said that you don’t attend funerals anymore because you’ve lost so many friends. Do you plan to attend Michael Jackson’s funeral?
A: No, not at all, not at all. Because it’s going to be, like, 9 million people there, and it’s not what I want to see.

Q: You’re not going to be there?
A: No. I can’t be there, anyway. I’m going to Wales the day after tomorrow, I go to Montreux, I go to Marbella, I go to the south of France. My condolences and love I’ve already sent to the family. But being there with 10 million people is not my idea of a tribute to somebody you were so close to—who’s got a part of your soul. Our souls were joined, you know. And a piece of it goes with him.

Mediaoutrage–  Quincy was keeping it all the way 100.  Either that or the dude is really detached.  We assume he was just trying to be as forthwright as possible.

38 Responses to “Quincy Jones: “Michael Jackson Didn’t Want To Be Black””

  1. mizzsimplicity said

    i really couldnt read all the way to the end. i just think all this is just bullshit. nobody’s saying what Michael did to himself wasnt ridiculous but for God sakes the man jus died. show jus a lil bit of sensitivity and decency. shit

  2. lio said

    mmmm..interesting, I never seen or read an interview of Mr. Jones, is he always 100% direct ? cause he said some fucked up shit here. And he dissed the kids man…the kids, come on now.

    It’s funny how all those ppl have stories to tell about Micheal now that he’s dead. Were they scared of him while he was alive ??

  3. MissTX85 said

    So it continues. Damn Q!

    Mike I guess they don’t want you to have any peace.

  4. truly23 said

    And he had the audacity to say MJ was a part of his soul- but not attend the man’s funeral/tribute however you want to put it!!! MO Q is just straight up bullshyt!!!
    I took from this interview as if Q was saying oh well just another entertainer who
    took his own life…Where’s the sympathy from half the azzholes who are starting to
    speak out??? I guess everyone has something to say when they have no defense coming
    back at them…I mean speak your mind, but dayum have a lil respect for the dead…
    It shouldn’t matter if it was 1 or 300 Mil. I mean if he really was part of your soul-
    you would be there for his family.

  5. Yeah I Said It said

    And what about you Quincy? Not that it matters,but you don’t digg yourself either. Look at the women you married. Are your children not biracial? Do you love yourself. What skeletons slide around in your closet? When you die you should already know what will be said about you by the way you speak of the dead….. Black folks make me sick as hell talking to damn much!! How is any of this information relevant? Always believe only some of what you hear(and a very small part at that) and none of what you read. Quincy might as well add you to the big mouth shit stirring list, you raggedy bastard!

  6. Yeah I Said It said

    P.S I didn’t know anything about Ray Charles either until gopher mouth opened his trap. Quincy you are what you are a damn hog

  7. wpsegura said

    the only thing that Q said that was not pulling all the skeleton out the closet was ” If you start thinking about darkness instead of light, or fear instead of love, you’ll get in trouble. I really believe that.” But the rest was utter BS.

  8. Marie said

    Quincy just told it like it is. I respect that.

  9. justsayin said

    hhmmmm weird

  10. vince said

    Quincy knew Michael as a person. The fans didn’t! Stop attacking Quincy and listen, learn!

  11. Yeah I Said It said

    So what he knew Michael, some things are better left unsaid. I don’t respect anyone that pull out the negative and not the positive. Instead of lifting him up he jumped on the bandwagon to wade in mud….

    With friends like Quincy,I would rather have none.

  12. Yeah I Said It said

    You would think if he “DID” know Michael he would know enough to shut up. I don’t think he knew him at all. The real people that did know him have not said a word…….

  13. leegill said

    I agree with every statement Quincy made. We need to pull the wool outta our eyes and take good look! I posted a blog asking “Why did Michael Jackson adopt three white children? I didn’t get one response from this community. And I know for a fact that this so called skin diease he claimed to have was bullshit! Look at Lil Kim, Dianna Ross and tell me they had the same thing? Bleaching or skin peels whatever! Tie it all up? What Black man takes injections for lighter skin, adopts white children?……………….Go figure!

  14. truly23 said

    I see a lot of you let the media play a big part in your lives…Not unless you were there personally to witness any of this, you can’t jump to conclusion. It appeared quite obvious on partially on the man’s hand to see he had it. But of course, he didnt have to go and make every
    part of it equally looking light bright, but that was his choice to do so. How do Q know MJ didn’t want to be a black man??? Was he in the man’s head or thoughts? Did he ever hear MJ come out and say hey, I don’t want to be black??? I mean when was the last time you heard anything from Q seriously???? When was it you heard anything from this man?? I’m saying what’s really real everyone wants to dog this man out in death as well as while he was living. But, the world sees the bigger picture and view this man’s entertainment skills and not necessarily his lifestyle… Also, while everyone claiming MJ adopted these kids- where’s the proof of that show me some papers somewhere!!! Show me your documents of the adoption papers!!! Come on people- it’s not about wool over anyone’s eyes. It’s just that everyone wants to jump on the negative bandwagon and people’s choices to believe what they want. Not unless it is documented out there and it’s solid proof you just can’t go by what people are saying claiming to be so close to someone. If he was that tight with MJ as I mentioned earlier- he would attend the services and show respect to the man’s family and kids. By the way, how many drugs has Q been on. I mean if you’re going to put someone else’s business in the street- throw your own shyt out there as well… After all in death, it’ll be talked about anyways true or not…He needs to speak up on how many white wives he done had while trying to tell the world this man didn’t want to black..

  15. Marathon_Man said

    Quincy might have told it like it was but in light of the family’s grief over losing their son abrubtly he should have fell the fuck back. Like what he said about his kids was ridiculous. That was malicious. You can keep it real but to call your friend weird and say some of the other things he said is very cold. Yo we all have friends that do some strange stuff but if one of them were to just drop dead I wouldn’t engage the media and let all the skeletons out of the closet. Quincy you’re not a friend for that.

  16. lio said

    There ‘s a time and place for everything, Now is not the time for ppl to go to the media and tell them that MJ was a “drug addict” and a “freak”. As of why MJ adopted 3 whites kids? WHY NOT ? AND WHO CARES ! You can ask the same question about white celebrities adopting black kids too.. Why ? anyways , some ppl will remembered MJ as “Wacko Jacko”, the “freak show”, but many many more will remember him as a musical genius and as the king of pop, and that’s all that matter to me, i don’t give a rat’s ass about the rest of the bullshit .

  17. Yvonne said

    I agree with MM. Quincy, more than likely, was privy to a lot of inside info on MJ that would surprise us but he should have kept that to himself.

    Maybe if more of MJ’s “friends” would have REALLY stood up to him about certain elements in his life that they felt were destructive to his lifestyle then, MJ might still be alive today.

  18. Marie said

    I think Quincy said what everyone already knows because it is obvious just looking at Michael that he did not want to be black or maybe just look black. It was Michael’s choice and people loved him anyway. I don’t think Quincy meant any harm because he is or was married to Peggy Lipton, a white women whom he has 2 or 3 kids with.

  19. ucanb2 said

    at this point…to me a real friend would consider the feelings of the family he left behind.
    Biological or otherwise they are his children, if he didn’t like his skin color…oh well! But let them family have a little peace/dignity for their loved one.
    Their is a time for all things…this was the time to be silent, especially if you didn’t address it while he was here!

  20. Atlanta said

    That is wht I a talking about Quincy. All the way 100.

  21. Yeah I Said It said

    I go with you 100% Ucanb2. Are you serious MO? nothing she said had to do with Michael,she rambled on about her sister April being locked up and somebody name Matthews being free to go.

    I did not get it. ???????

  22. Media Outrage said

    @ YeaISaidIT- We didn’t leave that link. Someone wrote that as their user name. We didn’t even check the link. It’s an imposter. SO maybe we better erase their little comment pretending to be us.

  23. Random said

    “With Friends like that..who needs..” (you know the rest)…Shame on him!!

  24. Jolie said

    He needs to shut his mouth with all the white women that he runs around with. How dare you?????? You are one to talk about race issues.

  25. Ms. Behave said

    That’s what i’m taking about Quincy. Kepping it REAL. Respecting the dead is one thing but pretending that MJ wasn’t a very ‘troubled’ man is something else.

    Quincy probably have prior engagements and probably will face legal consequences if he ignore contracts and how can u mourn with millions of people, i couldn’t do it. Evidently, so can’t the Jackson’s, as to why they are having a PRIVATE memorial service.

    How the hell do u move from being a little Black Boy to a Middle age White Woman?

    MJ wasn’t pleased with his features and he changed them. Vitiligo? stop it. The reasons why MJ had skin discolorations was because of the bleaching and ur skin doesn’t go full 100 all at one, some areas will lighten first. [Skin peels]. It is also evident with the color of his nails being a slight amber color, the bleaching agents do that to u. Believe me i KNOW this, i’ve been around MANY bleachers. So does Latoya have it too? what about janet’s nose or the other boys. Stop making EXCUSES for MJ.

    MJ had his skin color altered, his nose re-arranged, chin implants and hair straighten. Do u HONESTLY believe he would live to the RIPE OLD AGE OF 100? I doesn’t work like that, what u put in u get out. MJ went through a complete metamorphosis and DID HIMSELF HARM.

    As far as i’m concern if the Doctor or someone else didn’t inject him with something to cause death, MJ committed SUICIDE – Cardiac Arrest is just one of the MANY SIDE EFFECTS of bleaching.

    Stop the Kool Aid Drinking, Might i add that many of u were the very ones to bash him while he was alive, so it is very HYPOCRITICAL for u now to singing praises.


    Rest In Peace Mickey, and i honestly mean it.


  26. lowridaz said

    well I dont give a damn what he did to himself and what he look like, i always loved that man and always been a fan , no matter what mike look like, his heart was beautiful, and I WILL ALWAYS , AND ALWAYS HAVE LOVED YOU MIKE, YOU STILL LOOK GOOD TO ME!!!

  27. nanci said

    Oh that was really rough how quincy bashed michael like that, cant believe it. Although michael had his issues, dont need to say all those negative things about the guy, quincy, you knew michael from when he was just a boy, this is really hard to even comprehend what a friend would say about a person who he upheld as one of his children. Let the bias people talk this trash, but not someone who michael looked up too all his life,and quincy knew michael was just a genius during his lifetime, especially in the 80’s and 90’s michael was there, please quincy you had to be that rough on the poor guy.

  28. Yeah I Said It said

    If i am not mistaken we said on the very first post we talked about Michael. It has nothing to do with the man being dead and all the negative talk about him and his personal life.

    So what he changed his skin. Have some respect for the dead is all I am saying. Talk about the man in his face,if you say you were a personal and “close” friend who knew him…. I too don’t give a damn what he did in his personal life. There are strange people in every walk of life. You may be considered strange by your neighbors, does not mean you are strange to everybody. I may talk about celebrities when they are alive, but the dead I leave alone.

  29. True. Dead people are or should be off limits…Even to Dicks like myself.

    Yes, Micheal was out there but he made history and the music he created is only reduplicated by every artist.

    The man is a legend weather we like it or not and has changed music forever.

  30. kentuckywoman said

    I think Jones was just being forthright. I can understand alot of what he says about MJ because I’m also a Virgo and have an academic background in psychology.

    I don’t think Jones’ was being disrespectful; he was just being truthful. If Jackson had vitiligo, I could see lightening his skin so that he didn’t look blotchy. I think he took it too far, though. I mean, the guy was pastey white, almost like a ghost.

    But it is true that his kids are white. I can’t comment on that. Maybe Jackson just thought that caucasian features were preferable. Beauty IS in the eye of the beholder, after all.

    As for the drugs, Jones isn’t the first person to confirm it. Many people get hooked on prescription drugs, starting with pain killers following an accident of some kind. Pain killers are downers; MJ had a very high energy act. He would have had to take uppers to counteract the effects of the downers. That’s a lethal combination. Same thing, pretty much, that Elvis Presley died of.

    Take Jackson’s apparent anorexia, which weakens the heart, among other things, add the pills, the high energy demands of his work, his anxiety and penchant for perfectionism, and you have a recipe for death.

    Virgos are generally very fussy, very perfectionistic, in just about everything they do, in what they look like, in what they eat, in what they wear, etc. They can also be hypocondriacs, which I suspect was also true of MJ. The need to take pills to keep the weight down in order to do the dance moves, the need to take a pill for every ache and pain – all of this is pretty familiar territory for many, if not most, Virgos at some point in their lives.

    None of this negates MJ’s talent, or his heart. No one is merely the sum of their faults or their good points. Most people are a combination, if not a contradiction, of both. I suspect MJ was perhaps more normal than he realized, in that respect.

    That being said, I’m kind of hoping that at some point in his memorial service, he will rise from his coffin and this would all have been a whopper of a publicity stunt. I’m not going to hold my breath, but it would be a publicity stunt to end all publicity stunts, and one that even I could forgive and applaud him for.

    I bet most of his fans would, too. My guess is that most people would rather he be alive, than dead.

    But I get Jones’ decision not to attend the memorial service. It will be a circus, I’m sure, and some people are too private, or would rather remember someone as they knew them when they were alive, in some private moment together. Going to a funeral or a memorial service isn’t the only way to pay one’s respects.

    At any rate, on the probable chance that this isn’t a publicity stunt, I wish MJ Godspeed. I hope that he has found his peace, at last.

  31. Gay said

    First off you’re way off about Diana Ross and skin bleaching. Start going to the spa and getting facials regularly and you’ll see your skin will lighten. Not severely but a couple shades at least. Now Quincy having a white wife doesn’t mean that he doesn’t like himself as a black man. That’s ignorant to say. Quincy however does come across as a bit of a hater in this article.

  32. Cook54 said

    Black men like Quincy Jones ain’t nothin’ but a bunch of Othellos and Black Aryans–they’re just like the White Aryans–deep down inside they hate black folks and coveth everything the white man has right down to the last vestige of white supremacy, the white woman.

    Quincy Jones didn’t just have just one white wife–ALL of his wives were white–no African-Americans, no Asians–just white. It is always amazing to me that African-American men like Quincy Jones always claim “they don’t see color”–but all they seem to deal with are white women–not Japenese women, African women, Indian women, etc. Some of Quincy Jones kids are as “white” as Michael’s adopted kids so I really don’t understand WHY HE’S SOUNDING OFF ABOUT MICHAEL JACKSON. HE’S OLD NOW and now appears in public with some women of color – GO FIGURE.

    I’ve always felt that Michael was influenced by the self-loathing and color-struct African-American community of entertainers he ran into at an early age–they influenced his mind-set–they set the example for him. Now they want to talk “mess” about him now that he’s dead.

  33. Quincy Jones Is a Pervert said

    I know I fucked a tree and my daughter’s real name is Olive. In the garden, the secret garden I fucked an olive tree and Martina was born, now I jus be fucking 17 year olds.

  34. Martina Jones Is a Cunt said

    Yea my daddy fucked an olive tree and I was born. In the garden, the secret garden he fucked an olive tree and I was born, now HE jus be fucking 17 year olds.

  35. MariaSpain said

    Quincy, please stop it.

    • can't believ the BS said

      Just so all of you know, this was not Quincy Jone’s original words, as a matter of fact, he didn’t even sit down to do an interview that soon after. It’s amazing how gullible people are! A shame.

      • MJfanALWAYS said

        those words sound just like his ass. I’ve studied qj interviews and speech habits (ie pet words). al of the “surrealistics” and everything else. it was him.

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